We’re psyched to share that Spillian Co-Founder Leigh Melander, PhD was recently a guest on Josh Mortensen’s podcast, The Explorer Poet in an episode entitled Understanding Frivolity as a Tool for Understanding the Self and Fostering Creativity .

Here’s how Josh describes the conversation:

In this engaging conversation with Leigh Melander, we explore the profound impact of myth and storytelling on our understanding of ourselves and the world. We discuss the importance of frivolity and play in fostering creativity, the duality of good and evil in myths, and the significance of personalizing rituals to create deeper meaning in our lives. We also explore the need to embrace irreverence and the journey of exploration, rather than fixating on rigid narratives or outcomes.

Some myth, some frivolity, some ideas about ritual and making meaning, and, as always, a little bit of rebellion.

You can check it out here:
On Josh’s Website, The Explorer Poet
With video, on Youtube
Just audio on Spotify

Leigh’s sense of how this all fits together sits at the heart of Spillian and our mission.

Check it out. And thanks to Josh for a great conversation!